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22nd, 2012. welcome to big blue nation, ladies and gentlemen. we are coming to you live from the university of kentucky in lexington, kentucky. this, the first stop on the college edition of our 30 million jobs tour. good afternoon to you. i'm dylan ratigan. we are here at the school pharmacy this afternoon one of the biggest growth areas for jobs in america across the board is health, health services, health care. more on that coming up but that simply is one industry as we all know. we have a kaleidoscope of challenges and we need 30 million jobs to solve those challenges in order to get this country back ontrack from industrial investment to cradles of innovation to health care. recent college graduates among those feeling the jobs crisis the worst. 14% settling for either
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part-time work, 20% not using their degrees at all. that does not count the millions of innovative, enthusiastic, and driven students who will graduate in our own country in 2012. over the next three days we'll talk a lot about how we as a country can match our students, their passion, their potential, their desire to help like the wildcats here in kentucky with the great needs of our nation be it through full-time work, volunteering, experimentation, a word i like, or ultimately by freeing them from the things that are barriers like student debt, hoping to bring their ideas to change america to life at a time when we must change and change fast. we must create a culture of experimentation in this country in order to keep up with the incredibly fast changing time we find ourselves in. we begin with the big question on every under grad and every parent's mind for that matter. enough with the talk. how is the student to find a job this spring? university of kentucky alum rebecca christopher graduated in
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2011 with a degree in mechanical engineering, is currently working, gainfully employed. congratulations. >> thank you. >> charles purdy's career advice expert can tell us where the jobs are. he has the dateda baa base. he can tell you where the work is and where he thinks it will come from and jamie knows exactly what it takes to get hired in his community and what we can learn in our own. it is nice to see the three of you. thank you for coming out. congrats on getting the gig. >> thank you. >> pretty awesome. >> i know. >> what are you doing? >> a shift supervisor for corning glass. >> so you're making my flat screen tv? >> yes. we make cover screen glass, high definition, high quality glass. right now i am shift supervisor so i supervise 30 employees at a time. >> one year out of school, 30 people? >> i'm not even one year out of school. >> not even. that's a good job. >> yeah. i'm only nine months.
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i was hired into this position to eventually move my way into an engineering position. >> understood. give us a sense, charles, from monst monster's perspective. you had a tremendous day today. you get a lot of people putting themselves into your data base and more importantly a good sense of where the demand for work is. this spring, graduating in two months, i'm looking for a job. >> right. >> where should i be looking? >> we've seen a 9% growth in overall jobs posted on >> just available work. >> a growth of 9% in the monster index. over one year. january from 2011. >> that's good news. >> that is. we're seeing high growth in a lot of fields you'd expect. fields we know about like high tech engineering, health care as you talked about. we see a lot of jobs on monster as well in transportation, legal, finance industries. i think the best advice for students planning their long-term career is not to try to stake their bet on,
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quote-unquote, a secure industry. it is about planning for the long-term future. i love your term experimentation. it's about committing to a lifetime of learning and developing. >> problem solving. >> and problem solving. the hot careers, we don't know what they are yet. no one would have guessed that. social media manager or mobile developer. it's a new thing. people who get those jobs are people who have been paying attention to how things changed in their industries. >> i see you nodding the whole time. you're sort of in a unique spot here because you really are trying to build and do build bridges between the students heret this university and the employers in this community that wanted to help them get jobs. the traditional framework is exactly what we just heard from charles. find a secure industry. become a doctor. you become a lawyer. you become an engineer. whatever it is. and what we're seeing is that the real skill it seems is your ability to identify the needs of a given business or given community and then find a way to
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help solve those needs in a way they'll pay you to do it. is that a fair interpretation of the modern world? >> well, i think so. the reason i was shaking my head is it all comes back to this innovative problem solving issue. you know, with new college graduates what we look for is not only individuals who possess the intellectual and academic credentials but also someone who can present themselves as an innovative problem solver that's not just going to be another spoken wheel if you will. >> how does one do that? i'll just walk in and tell you i'm an innovative problem solver. >> honestly, to me, i think the biggest component of that is your ability to work in teams. you know, working individually is not really the best way, i think, to present yourself as a problem solver. you need to come in, be a member of a team, and, you know, really contribute from that front. >> and to prove it i think recruiters have always hired on reputation, always relied on word of mouth and what they
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could find out about people. the great thing about nowadays with social media and the internet is anyone can create that reputation. it's about marketing yourself and branding yourself well and really paying attention to how you put your best foot forward online and on social networking platforms. >> do you agree with that analysis? >> oh, yeah. it's all about selling yourself. i mean, because i, you know, here i was coming out of college and i was applying for jobs that were very specific to energy or to automotive, and never would have thought to look at something with management. and somebody suggested a job to me and i said, okay. let me go out there and take it. let's see what i can do. it's wound up to pay off in dividends. >> do you agree with what they've said about the culture that really comes down to culture and if you have a culture based on team activity, group activity, group base problem solving, if you know how to do that then you know how to run experiments, evaluate those
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things and put yourself into the system. >> you have to do it so you can work with others well. so you have to show you can work in a team and you can work in a team environment. >> right. >> that's what companies want. they're not expecting you to be the end all be all, the one true -- >> the reality is the companies frequently wherever they are today is not where they're going to be three or five years from now so they need as the company, if the company must be ready to adapt, the people that work in the company have to be part of that adaptive culture. >> companies hire you for what you can do not for what you have done. companies hire you for what you are going to be able to do for them in the future. some of the ways you demonstrate that is by showing what you've done in the past and how you've adapted to changes and how you commit to staying on top of developments in your industry and in the world as a whole. >> we talk a lot in events and speeches and moving around about how "how" is the answer. who, what, when, where, why is constantly going to change.
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it could be different every day. but if you have a high quality "how" that you are then not only more likely to solve problems but also more likely to put yourself in a situation where you can help the people around you. >> that's right. i think that a component of the how comes down to managing the expectations of a recent college graduate entering the work force as opposed to maybe looking for a job and focusing on the initial monetary benefit of that opportunity, focusing more on getting any job that has a reasonable prospect of offering growth and piques the interest of the job seeker. it is very important because then when you go in you show your work ethic, your commitment to the team. growth opportunities will come after that and it's hard for us to condition ourselves but sometimes the process is more important than the result. >> go ahead, charles. >> it's really about focusing i think for young people on long-term results. you can get real benefits from internships, volunteerships not
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only from the skills you develop and things you learn but also from the people you meet. it's that network of people you're going to impress and interact with in these positions that are going to help you. >> i will say, and if you become an engineer you have to get paid. >> that's true. you know, on that a year's worth of experience working even if it's not the job you wanted will go so far in that next job. >> thank you. a pleasure to meet all three of you and exciting times. we have raised this period of adaptation, experimentation, problem solving and encouraged bite 9% number and increased listings with you. great news. thanks to all of you. coming up here straight to the students' voices to the presidential candidates. mtv's andrew jenks will tell us if any of the candidates are listening to the millennials. but first, fight night for the gop. oh, yes. pro wrestling theater continues
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in america. tonight's debate, abortion, gay marriage, and religion. but will anybody be talking about jobs? the megapanel is next. we're coming to you live from the university of kentucky at lexington on our 30 million jobs tour, college edition. ok, guys-- what's next ? chocolate lemonade ? susie's lemonade... the movie. or... we make it pink !
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the white house today unveiling election year tax policy. the headline, cutting the current corporate rate from 35% to as low as 25%.
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sounds good. at the same time the president and the administration claiming that they will close many of the loop holes that corporations currently enjoy. also sounds good. besides, who is going to fight lower taxes in an election year? >> the president would take us in one direction. i'd take us in a different one. his plan with regards to jobs is very simple. he wants to raise taxes. that will kill jobs in this country. >> he wants to lower taxes or so they will tell you. imogene lloyd webber is with us in lexington. the rest of the megapanel are on the east coast. before we get into tax policy i want to address imogene's early morning confusion when you saw the uk. >> i did. i was taking an early morning walk. it was before i had my tea so i wasn't really awake. i saw a sign saying uk housing and i thought finally britain's exports are working.
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however, no. it was actually the university of kentucky and i woke up by the third sign. >> it does show some american solidarity with the brits we are willing to use the same letters. >> absolutely. as far as our corporate tax rates go that is the one thing we are slightly beating america on. >> how so? >> we are going to have the lowest rate by 2014 at 23%. currently 26%. so, yes. absolutely this is very smart. yeah, let's lower the corporate tax rates. it slightly ruins the narrative of mitt romney as well. >> it makes it politically difficult. rob cox, here is the issue i had with the whole tax debate in this country very simply. i'll give you rates until i'm blue in the face on 50 different things. i could be right about some, wrong about some. other people give you rates that's great. you and i both know the vast majority particularly of corporate tax rates are set at purchase in an office by lobbyists in washington, d.c. so some companies pay no taxes. other companies pay a lot of taxes. and the corporate tax rate or whatever the tax rate you want
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to call it is is a good headline but the reality is our tax code is set much more based on the exchange of money and contributions with politicians for the pistachio people's tax rate and the steel guy's tax rate and coal and down the line and that sort of strikes me as the real issue which is that our tax code is sold in private rooms. we don't even really have a tax rate. >> that's right. it's filled with distortions. >> is that unfair? >> totally fair. those distortions are meant to prop up various special interests, companies, and in fact one of the true problems with the president's plan is it still does have a lot of those in there. you just pointed it out there. you have a 25% for manufacturers. that is actually putting a finger on the scale. right? from government's perspective. >> totally. >> the real issue is about trying to level the whole thing and that means getting rid of all disportions. once you have one, everyone is going to ask for another. >> right.
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and, david, give us a sense of how much of a living a young lawyer can make in washington d.c. not worrying about health care or banking legislation or any of these big things we talk about but the day-to-day work of taking money and going back and forth from the law office to the capitol building in order to get tax favors. >> well, i wouldn't pick on the young lawyers. i think it's some of the more seasoned ones. you'll understand the code. but look. the tax writing process is so arcane that the actual members of the tax writing committees are given pieces of paper that translate the bills, the amendments, what not because it is impenetrable to understand even for the people writing the code unless somebody is there at their side to translate for them. that should tell us something. it should tell us that the code and the amendments thereto have become so complex that even the people writing the code need help to understand it. that's where i think we all can
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agree the level of complexity has gotten to the point where it is obfuscating what is going on and simplicity sometimes for its own sake is really an improvement. if we can all understand it we can all behave accordingly and we all can have a sense of transparency. part of the problem in our tax code is it is so difficult to understand you can't understand what's being written as it's being written. >> right. and also it frees up any politician or republican aspirant, democratic aspirant, whoever, to say whatever they want about what they're going to do with the tax code and if they get the right headline lowering taxes. okay. great. that guy is going to lower taxes. the reality is there is no better indication of where two sets of rules has really started to rot at the core of this country than in the way our tax code is written across the board. if nothing else i would hope what the president is doing will open a gateway to massive tax simplification. we'll see whether that happens. speaking of whether something will happen or not, there is a presidential debate tonight and
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what i am wondering is whether anyone will talk about what everybody in america wants to talk about, which is our inability to actually come to agreement on the 90% -- 90% of us agree on everything from eliminating two sets of rules in the tax codes, having an effective investment policy, down these lists but we find the best fund raising vehicle when you look at this will go from reverse order this time, there is no better fund raising vehicle than the wedge issues so if i bring up abortion, i bring up contraception, if i bring up gay marriage and i'm a democratic fundraiser that's jackpot city. if i'm a republican fundraiser that's similarly jackpot city. and so the ways that i raise money are to create these crazy, get everybody worked up, oh, my god. they're going to invade every vagina in america. the government wants to invade your vagina. they do not. they better not be invading the vaginas. we're going to raise so much money to prevent that or gay marriage or down the list and in
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the process we end up not solving any of our problems and instead just throwing red meat into the crowd for fund raising purposes. it's making everybody sick to their stomach. >> david, i will say i'm one of those people who thinks you are the most colorful commentator on television bar none. >> thank you. it's my tie. >> what i think we have to understand here is you said a key point, which is we all or the majority of us agree on, now you fill in the blank. that is not how you win elections, however. you win elections by contrasting yourself from the other candidates somehow. if we're all in agreement of the need to create jobs what fun is that if you're running an election? you have to focus on that with which we disagree. these guys are going to throw red meat out there for the hard core, right wing voters that are going to decide this republican nomination and they're going to do it in a way that differentiates themselves from one another and it is going to
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be ugly as it has been. that is not necessarily the best way to choose a leader but that's what we've got. >> yeah. rob, your thoughts. i'll leave it at that. >> i would be -- it would be interesting if the debate tonight focused like you did on the "v" word and very interesting to see some of our candidates talk openly about things like that, health issues or privacy issues but, you know, i think we are going to be in a position where we'll see wedge issues and, you know, they're getting whackier by the day so it's -- >> i know. >> we're talking -- someone has to ask questions about satan. do you believe the president is an agent of lulucifer. it is not going to bring us to a better economy and more jobs. >> it is an interesting thing. what we need to do is agree and solve problems absolutely. >> but to the point of both rob
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and david, the way power and money are raised -- >> these debates have turned into entertainment, a reality show. this might be the last debate tonight so expect a season finale. it is ridiculous. syria, iran, huge foreign policy issues about america's place in the world moving forward. i'm interested in that fundamentally. what are they doing? republicans get out of the bedroom. start discussing the issues that matter not just to america but to the free world. >> and yeah. we won't even get into the hypocrisy especially from the right wing of small government except for when we want to decide what happens in every house in america. anyway, nice to see the two of you gentlemen. thank you so much. you look well in your uk hat. >> i'm feeling very much at home. >> well you should. next up here the key to creating a healthier economy and getting the 30 million jobs america needs. groups solving problems, supporting experimentation, and
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welcome back to the school of pharmacy university of kentucky in lexington. one of the top pharmacy schools in our country. as we talked about at the beginning of the show one of the areas where we are seeing a growing need and more job opportunities across the board is in health, health services, health care. we've learned about the need for nurses particularly during the miami leg of our 30 million jobs tour. >> in the three to five years we're going to see that we must galvanize more people into
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nursing. the average age of a registered nurse is almost 50. probably one-third of the current workforce will be vacated as soon as the boomers retire. >> the work load is stressful and you feel the need for more staff, more nurses. >> if you are willing to travel 30 minutes from your home you probably are snapped up in two weeks if that. >> it's not just nursing. parents and students, listen up. the health care and social assistance sector expected to gain the most jobs in america of any group between now and 2020. our next guest says that health care jobs alone and the demand may be there, will not cure america's jobs problem. in fact, he says, without more real jobs, specifically, in manufacturing, in industry, in a truly vital and prosperous economy, that those health care jobs simply will not do the job. joining us now from charlotte, north carolina, is dr. steven greer ceo of the health care
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channel and a health care sector financial analyst. he also is a trained surgeon. so the man knows of what he speaks. doctor, walk us through your -- we went through this and i know we talked about it in the preinterview. you don't dispute the opportunity to create work in health but you argue if we do not get a bigger brain about what it means to have a prosperous nation, we're not going to -- we'll need a lot more than health care jobs. >> well, yes. since the financial collapse last five years or so health care has been one of the few sectors that is growing jobs but it's a bit like the tail wagging the dog. that can't be sustained because health care and all of those jobs are really paid for primarily by the private sector as opposed to medicare and medicaid and that requires insurance via employed people. as unemployment has skyrocketed, the fewer insured has pushed the care into the lower paying
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medicaid and medicare and that's having a real hit on medical centers and as we speak right now the 2012 budgets for most medical centers are being formed. and 10% or more cuts are being made. for the first time, and this isn't well appreciated by anyone and maybe a first on your show, for the first time we're seeing layoffs in medical centers. even at the doctor level, which is to be -- thought to be a rock solid job. the health care sector can't continue to grow unless the over all economy in jobs improves. >> and the -- how direct is the correlation between the fact that our health care system right now is tied to employment? in other words, we have employer based health care. if you don't have a job you're not paying, not really frequently participating in the american health care. in other words if american health care wasn't employer based would it change what
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you're saying? >> oh, well sure. if it wasn't employer based it would be a completely different market. but right now every -- almost all private insurance is tied to a job so, conversely, where we're seeing some improvement in detroit with the automobile industry picking up, i did some field checks and some doctors, some friends i know up there who are senior ceos and so forth surprisingly the detroit hospitals are actually seeing some improvement tying in with the improvement of the detroit economy whereas in other areas, most other areas of the country the medical centers are having deficits so if you eliminated that employment sect or health insurance that would change things. that goes back to world war ii, post world war ii, a whole separate topic we can talk about if you like. >> no, one that i've talked about at length just because it drives me nuts because i really want to believe that in order
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for people to seize the experimental culture we need especially with students at a college like this, there are so many people in jobs they would love to go try and experiment but because their health care is tied to whatever their job is they're prevented from seizing the experiment that is at hand with a litany of problems. let's not go too deep into it. i want to talk about something that you brought up which is that one of the bigger growth areas for health care in general regardless of what the system is, is actually going into patients' homes. can eye elaborate a little bit? >> yes. >> sure. if you break down health care, an astonishing amount is spent. not many people realize we spend more on health care than the military. it's now surpassed the military budget. we spend $2.7 trillion on health care. if you break that down the in patient hospital expenses are still the biggest but the move to treat out patient care and home nursing and so forth is growing. and as the aging population grows alzheimer's, diabetes
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care, it's just going to grow. i believe one of the -- other than flat out fraud which i'll get to in a second the home care sector is one of the growing sectors. >> what are your thoughts as we were just flashing the statistics on the costs on those who are working out there who like dr. jeffrey brenner who we talked about at length who is hot spotting effectively finding in his case the 1% in camden, new jersey that are responsible for 30% of the health care costs, you know, the 5% of the american population, 50% of the health care costs and making those people healthy as a goal which is sort of not where we, how we function right now. >> yeah. well, there is a huge demand for any sort of industry service or technology that treats, reduces medical error, reduces hot spots, gives better quality of care. as opposed to the old model which is trying to sell a drug
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or trying to sell a medical device or trying to sell something like that there is this new service industry or technology industry of trying to find new ways to deliver health care better, more efficiently and reduce hospital errors. i am working with john hopkins with peter on his checklist system and there is a tremendous need for that, yes. >> and how valuable do you see that? and also from talking to dr. brenner, that sort of thing that you're talking about is very threatening to a lot of incumbent businesses who stand to lose a revenue stream as we adopt some of the new techniques. how much of an issue is that? >> well, that's a good point. the doctor who used to run cms until recently said up to 30% of health care is fraud or unnecessary therapy. well that fraud to you is someone else's income. so if you think about that, suddenly cutting down on hundreds of billions of income that is someone's illegitimate
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income so there is pushback, lobbyists absolutely. it is not going to be easy and that is the reason our completely broken washington has not been able to adjust this whatsoever. >> ultimately, what i talk -- when i talk to folks, i was with a bunch of folks earlier in lexington. we've been traveling all over the country. i encouraged them to look to those who are actually succeeding in specific hospitals with specific practices and then look to their local hospitals. in other words, i agree on washington. it seems that it's only if we look at the actual hospitals in our own communities here in lexington, back in new york, wherever, and actually apply some of these techniques that we all talk about in specific hospitals that we even stand a chance to do some of this. do you agree with that assessment? >> well, the key, when you look at model centers, mayo clinic or places like that, it's really more of a lump sum bungled payment as opposed to fee for service.
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when you go to hospitals that make money by doing more and more tests and doing unnecessary tests at the end of life and so forth the dartmouth atlas tracks that. we know the bad offenders. they're in the big cities. you go to the midwest, ohio state, uk, mayo clinic and then you get places that are delivering higher quality of care for much less cost. and those are the future. i think medicare is going to be changing, starting to do moribund ld payment and getting away from fee for service so the future is also accountable care or acos as part of something quote-unquote obama care. there are a lot of things going on in medicare that is going to try to get away from fee for service. if you can get away from fee for service you could solve the problem. try telling that to -- >> rings loud and clear, doctor. the music to our ears. and you certainly have an ally with us and your advocacy around performing fee for service such that we can get doctors and
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patients into an aligned interest structure as opposed to some of the misaligned interest that we see in too many parts of our society beyond health care. thank you, dr. greer. appreciate it. steven greer the boss at the health care channel. if you're lucky maybe he'll conduct a little surgery on you though you would be unlucky because you'd be having surgery but you get my point. after this a dramatic reading by sir william of vanderbilt, our little version of masterpiece theater. sam: i'm sam chernin. owner of sammy's fish box.
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is audition iing -- i believe h has the job -- to be the voice of "greedy bastards." we have dubbed him "sir william of vanderbilt." take a behind-the-scenes peek at him reading from the education portion of "greedy bastards." >> the harm to american students is a theft and a shame. but this failure goes far beyond education. we need education to prepare every industry to meet the challenges of the digital age with its accelerating rate of change. education may be a small part of the entirety of american society but it's small in the way that motor oil is a small part of the car if you catch my drift. if we don't have it, we don't keep the engine lubricated with a social culture of learning. the engine of our society seizes up and the entire vehicle breaks down. i've spoken to ceos of the many
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great manufacturers in this country and i hear repeatedly their frustration at not finding enough sufficient numbers of qualified candidates to work in their industry. when almost anyone with a computer and a cell phone can conduct business with anyone else at any time, any place, we need an educational system that prepares us to adapt to fast, ongoing change. >> sir william of vanderbilt, you can catch him every day on "morning joe" and his own show "way too early" and the entire education chapter of our book available, in summary, on greedy and in the entirety in the book itself.
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we'd love to hear your thoughts on our educational system and why we scheduled a set of meetups. we had a great time earlier this afternoon. in fact, visiting with the folks at joseph book sellers here in wildcat country. that was this morning. there was another event right after the program tonight here in lexington at coffea island and tomorrow at noon at the book loft having these conversations and then friday 11:30 a.m. in chicago, the windy city here we come finally. see the 57th street book store, 57th street books i should say in chicago and if you didn't catch all that no worries. we've got it all up on our book meetups and book appearances if you will on our website at dylan of course thanks to william for his wonderful presentation. straight ahead, the unemployment crisis one of the key issues for young voters in 2012. and when we come back the young gun who is traveling this country bringing the voice of america's millennials directly to the presidential candidates believe it or not.
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of jenks" and this year is helping to lead mtv's election coverage gathering perspectives of young voters. take a look. >> what do you feel the direction of the country is right now? >> our political system is frozen and that's a problem. >> i'm kind of afraid for the future. >> every four years we talk about the same problems and the same things. it's like nothing gets better. >> how do you feel about where we are today as a country? >> i love my country and i'm worried because i really feel that if we continue in the direction we're going we're down an unsustainable path. >> well, jenks reporting also bringing fresh perspective to the college edition of our own 30 million jobs tour, one of our young guns who will be joining us throughout the week. he joins us now from back at our home base in new york. we appreciate you paying us yet another visit. you got to put your face on the side of a revolver on a graphic at nbc. that was exciting. when people tell you that -- not people -- when millennials tell
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you they are concerned about the direction of america are they able to define what it is they mean? are they referring to a specific policy, our overall culture? how do you interpret those answers? >> yeah. i think it's culture more than anything. not necessarily policy. i think they feel a lack of control. a lot of times i hear that it feels like a bad breakup. you know, they feel like they were engaged in 2008 and it's not necessarily a bad breakup with president obama but with the entire process. and so i think more than anything that's what i'm hearing over and over and over again. and, you know, a lot of times i mention the american dream and i ask them, you know, what do you make of the american dream? what do you think the american dream is? a lot of times i kind of get an empty stare, kind of a blank face. american dream? what are you referring to? i think it is really the culture more so than specific policies. >> and what would you point to in the culture that we can start improving? if you were to look at your
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work, any individual who is concerned about this country, how can we today begin to improve some of the -- what would we improve in this culture to take it the other direction? >> i think it's getting a little more specific. you know, we know that a lot of young people are graduating college. they're leaving college, $24,000 in debt, and they end up back on their parents' couch. and i think they want real solutions and not simply broad answers. you know, i had the chance to ask governor romney a question and i was speaking to him about that very issue and his answer was a bit broad. i think, you know, it was much more broad than maybe he would give an answer to, you know, someone a little bit older with specific questions and that's what i'm going to be trying to do moving forward is asking candidates like governor romney what are his specific agenda, what is his specific changes that he is going to be making other than just kind of these very general answers such as, you know, i'm good with the economy. i'm a jobs creator and these
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sorts of things? i think at the end of the day, it's what james carville said, the economy, stupid. at the end of the day our back pockets, there is no money there and that is what we're most worried about. i think we're looking for real solutions to how we can stop ending up on our parents' couch and get back to work. >> i want to show folks a recent interaction you had with ron paul who is one of the four remaining presidential candidates. >> they come to college campuses and that is where the optimism is. >> even inner cities and places like d.c. or baltimore? do you feel optimistic when you're leaving those cities? >> not as much as young people on college campuses but they are also victims of a deeply flawed economic policy that says we can have a welfare state forever, print money forever, and deficits don't matter. >> what is your experience as a journalist, andrew, in dealing with the presidential candidates in general? in other words, have you found them to be -- you mentioned sort of the generic or breadth of
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governor romney's answer. broadly, how have you -- have you been satisfied with the answers that you do get? >> no, not in the least. i think what we're trying to do with the power of 12 and at mtv right now is humanize this world. and, you know, i recently had an experience with a young woman in the hospital who has cancer and we were sitting in that hospital in the emergency room. she was worried that the cancer may be back. and i asked her how she was feeling. she said i'm really worried about tomorrow. and i assumed she was speaking about what the results would be the next day. and i, you know, had to -- took a setback and was like oh, god, gee, that's really wheresome. it's about the results huh? and she said no. i have a job interview tomorrow. i want to make sure i can make that interview. it is making sure i think that the candidates understand that, that this is what we're going through. understand that we're growing up in a country where our own
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parents believe that we're going to be growing up in a country that wasn't as good as their own. that's worrisome and what i want to start to feel from the candidates and get specific solutions as opposed to these kind of very generic talking points that i at least in my experience have only heard. >> listen, the american media and the presidential campaign is better to have you in it, andrew. i look forward to seeing the balance of your journalism over the course of this year. i congratulate you on your new assignment for 2012. well deserved. and, again, we look forward to seeing the output of your journalism. andrew jenks, catch him on mtv covering the presidential election through the eyes of america's millennials. you heard his perspective right there. it is going to be of course a culture of experimentation across the board that will be necessary to adapt as quick as we have to to deal with america's problems and get us the 30 million jobs we need in the process. for more, check out our latest
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blog today up at the huffington post is why you're looking at the huffington post. what is your experiment? and how do we take down barriers to more of it? and next up here, straight to the source we'll talk to some wildcats here in kentucky about their job prospects and what their experiments are as we continue from top ranked dare i say it number one kentucky in just a moment. we want to protect the house. right. but... home security systems can be really expensive. so to save money, we actually just adopted a rescue panther. i think i'm goin-... shhh! we find that we don't need to sleep that much. there's an easier way to save. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more.
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all right. welcome back. enough with the reporting on tv out there.
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we have, look at this. beautiful american students with us, actual, real live human american students who want to help us solve our problems. tell me your name. tell me your major and what it is you want to do. >> my major is doctor of pharmacy and i want to be a clinical pharmacy specialist one day. i see myself doing hospital pharmacy. the good thing about pharmacy is it is very versatile, a field that we're going to so a lot of people will know the people in the community and in the hospital and you can do research as well. i see myself in a hospital. >> what about you? >> i am a fourth-year pharmacy student in the same class. we are both looking to do the same thing, clinical pharmacy but i want to focus on pediatrics and maybe teach in the future. >> you like each other all right? >> we're friends. >> my name is josh, i'm a first-year graduate student in the master of medical sciences program. my main goal is to become a dentist and focus on mission
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dentist ri. >> if you were to look, what is your -- we heard from andrew jenks in some of his reporting. what is your perspective on american politics, american policy right now relative to, in other words, do you feel like the people back east in washington and the rest of it are talking about things that really matter to you? >> i definitely feel they are talking about stuff that is relevant to our field especially just because of everything that's gone on with the job market and everything. >> what about you? >> i think so. i think there are ups and downs and i think it's good to hear about people who have never been in politics having an interest and running now. that is always encouraging to us. >> what about you? >> i definitely like to think so. i just think it is such a difficult topic to really, for them to kind of see where the people in the jobs are out regarding, you know, like the -- it's just very difficult to relate to the actual person on the job i guess. >> try doing my job. talk about difficult. you got to deal with them all the time. you're like man, these people don't even want to talk about it.
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they don't want to talk about the tax code. when you look, though, you guys represent though not just the three of you but everybody out in the room here and even the wildcat over there. we'll get to that in a second. we have to have our educational systems creating education that helps people prepare for actual jobs we actually need. this is a classic example where we have an explosion in the number of people in this country who are going to need more and more health and health care services and we'll need more and more people that have that. i would be interested to -- did any of that even factor in? did you do this because you thought it would be fun? >> definitely that factored into my decision in becoming a pharmacist. i've always seen myself wanting to help patients and my mom is a nurse so i had the health care profession in my family so i felt like pharmacy was the perfect field to go into. they are very intelligent and hard working. >> all right. nice to meet all three of you. thank you for hosting us here today. then before we go i wanted to thank the wildcat. he does not speak or

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